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Just Another Choice by TheEmptyChest Just Another Choice by TheEmptyChest
My very first stamp. Of course, it had to be a controversial one. :P

Whenever I come across the abortion debate, I notice that pro-lifers tend to point to adoption as the “end all, be all” solution to unwanted pregnancies, and I can’t help but think, “And how many children have you adopted?” There are thousands of children in this country alone waiting to be, not knowing what it’s like to have a home or a family, feeling unloved and rejected. These children are draining money from society. Society cannot afford them. And yet many pro-lifers want to chuck in more, making the burden even worse, just because abortion is against their morals.

The simple truth of the matter is, adoption is not some “miracle cure” for abortions. It’s not a solution, and it’s not a prevention. When you preach “adoption only,” not only are you saying you want to force a woman to carry a pregnancy full-term - as well as deal with the pain of childbirth - just because you prefer that over abortion, you are also saying you want to force society to pay for an unwanted child. You may be fine and dandy with paying for a gazillion unwanted children, but I - and many other people - aren’t. And society doesn't operate based on what you consider right.

Bottom line: Adoption is a choice, just like abortion is. It's either pro-choice or no choice.

EDIT: Remember, this is my very first stamp. I'm new at this stamp-making thing, so I apologize that it's not all snazzy. XD
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AClockworkKitten Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I actually plan to adopt mine, k.
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2014
Good for you. If only more people would take that route.
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AClockworkKitten Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Agreed.  No difference between your own biological kid and one you adopted.
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014
No difference in how much you should love them, anyway. 
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AClockworkKitten Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Exactly.
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I have friends that were adopted thanks for asking. They're very nice and I'm fucking grateful they were NOT aborted so I could know them and be with them.
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013
Doesn't change my opinion. The stamp is not anti-adoption, it's anti-adoption as an "end all, be all" solution to an unwanted pregnancy.   
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't think adoption should be the ONLY option. There's also birth control, condoms, or, dare I say, abstinence that could also be options. And I will also support abortion being legal in the case of rape, incest, and life-death situations, but we're in disagreement on abortion should be allowed to solve unwanted pregnancies.
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Exodvs Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
My girlfriend was adopted.
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2013
Good for her.
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LetterToRaoulPeck Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013
How many adopted people do you know?
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Undead-Purdy Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
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oOChocolateOo Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Who'd go through pregnancy and birth JUST to give up their child to adoption? ._. Plus, not that many kids actually get adopted.
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2013
Exactly. Especially if the pregnancy is unwanted. If a woman/girl decides on her own to adopt the child out, she can, but having to resort to that - with no say in the matter - is ridiculous.
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X12-1992 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Adoption is full of "red tape". Also if you are pro-life but dont think gay couples should adopt....hypocrite. you're a hypocrite.
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013
I fully agree. :nod:
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X12-1992 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
also you should check out my poem "An Aborted's Love For Her Mother" which is a pro-choice poem about an aborted girl who is in heaven telling her mom she's just happy she is happy, that she understands why and that she knows she's not evil.
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X12-1992 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
yeah, also the argument that says that pro-life will ultimately win because they will be the only ones left would only work if everyone in pro-choice got abortions, which they dont. being pro-choice does not mean "always get abortions" no, it means to support someones choice to have an abortion or not.
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013
That literally makes no sense. There are plenty of women who choose to give birth, and quite a few more who don't even consider abortion because they want kids. All "pro-life" really is is "pro-birth." If these pro-lifers were truly concerned about life, they'd actually give a shit about all the children who are already born. And yes, I agree, pro-choice is not about liking abortions, it's about supporting a woman's right to do what is best for her.
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X12-1992 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Yeah, they just want to please their God. Well, i tell you this, if they are right and I end up in Hell, i will spit in teh face of God and Satan even as the flesh melts off my bones!
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KittyKidd17 Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I do not agree with abortion because I think women (and men) should be responsible before having sex and wear a preservative. If people aren't responsible enough to wear condoms, then they aren't responsible enough to have sex. I find it dangerous to give women the right to take away a life just because it isn't convenient to them (except, of coure, if they've been raped or are at death risk).
But then again, this is just my opinion. And you do have a point: it isn't fair for us to pay for those children. But I don't think they should have been aborted - they shouldn't have been conceived in first place.
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NightSkiesRavens Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
Does rape not exist in your universe?
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KittyKidd17 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
"(except, of coure (sic), if they've been raped or are at death risk)"
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xxHarlequin7xx Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Perfectly said! I always say to pro-lifers - 'Don't like abortion? Then don't have one'. I fully support a woman's right to choose. I don't like abortion myself, but I would never get one - doesn't matter to me what another woman wants to do with her body :)

Hope that makes sense!
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012
It definitely does, and I agree! Thank you! :nod:
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MitsukiTenshi Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012
For me I think if you are not ready for a child, don't have sex.
That's probably the best choice for normal cases but I feel like a lot of people don't tend to think about that :/
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xxHarlequin7xx Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
But what if you enjoy sex? Sex isn't just for creating babies. You can always practice safe sex. & safe sex with protection is what should be promoted. Not abstinence.
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MitsukiTenshi Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012
I don't think it's the lack of contraceptives that leads to unplanned pregnancy in most cases, but rather the lack of a mindset that having sex could lead to consequences. So I think abstinence should still be something that's promoted since people should be aware that the choices they make will have some kind of effect.
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moonlitinuyasha1985 Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
I don't plan on having any children of my own until after I've adopted.


Oh and what if the woman was raped?
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Hey, I'm thinking of adopting too! :highfive:

Yes, that is definitely a factor that should be taken into account.
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Ask-War Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Professional Artist
Plus, who wants to pay out the ass in medical bills and go through an extremely painful. if not fatal, childbirth and damage their bodies, just to give it away? That makes no sense to me.
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Exactly. It makes no sense to me either.
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Ask-War Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Professional Artist
You articulated that very nicely. I completely agree.
The total number of children (under age 18 years) worldwide is approximately 2.2 billion.
Out of that 2.2 billion children, 16 million children are estimated to be orphans.
The total number of children adopted worldwide each year, out of those 16 million orphans, is a mere 250,000.
The bottom line is that out of the 16 million orphans worldwide, each year only about 1.5% of them get adopted, that means 98.5% of all orphans do not get adopted.
So the more orphans you add to the mix, they lessen the chances of others to get adopted. Also, most adoptions are occur when the kid is younger than ten years old. The older you get, the less people want you. The less they want you, the less likely you will find a home.
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Sorry for not replying sooner. I've been away from my computer.

I didn't know the actual numbers, but I did know that they were high. Indeed, the number of children actually adopted is disgustingly low, and the older a child gets the more likely that he/she won't get adopted at all. A vast majority of the children stay in our poorly constructed child care system, inconveniencing taxpayers (and oftentimes experiencing abuse and neglect), until they reach legal adulthood. That's partly why the whole adoption argument is absurd. The other - and in my opinion, more prominent - reason is that adoption still forces the girl/woman to carry her pregnancy to term and endure childbirth against her will, which defeats the purpose of abortion and therefore renders it irrelevant.
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tsubasacorrupted Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
thanks for quoting me lol
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Ask-War Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Professional Artist
Apologies, I forgot to add your name at the end.
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tsubasacorrupted Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
lol its ok
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4EverYoungKid Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
That's not a stamp. For it to be a stamp, it needs to have the edgy stuff.
Use this. [link]
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
No it doesn't. Check these out: [link]. Some of them don't have fancy edges, and the group recognizes them as stamps.
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4EverYoungKid Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
It's not really a normal stamp. The majority of people use edges around it.
Just check the other folders in that group.
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
Well yeah, but that doesn't mean everyone has to, or that a stamp without edges is not a stamp at all.
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4EverYoungKid Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
:shrug:
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
More importantly, adoption as a solution doesn't resolve debates surrounding bodily autonomy, or how much damage childbirth can do and does in many circumstances to the mother.
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
Absolutely. I agree. I made this stamp specifically to target adoption because practically every pro-lifer I've seen has tried to use it as the "end all, be all" solution to abortion. I wanted to point out that it's not a solution at all, merely a choice. You're right, aboption does not take bodily autonomy or childbirth complications into account. That's why it simply cannot be a solution.
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AgentJayHawk Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Just one thing: you say society can't afford these kids? Well, if they do get adopted, they grow up to be happy, healthy taxpayers. More taxpayers, more benefit to society.
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
That's the thing, though: if they get adopted. Most of them don't. They remain in the child care system, draining money from society, until adulthood. And consider this: if every woman/girl who has an unwanted pregnancy decides to adopt out instead of abort, can you imagine how many kids that would be? It'd be insane.
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
If they get adopted and don't languish in the adoption/foster care system, where they're more likely to become criminals and drug addicts. I'm not a fan of the adoption argument because I think that it's unrelated to the abortion debate, but there are some serious flaws in our adoption and foster care systems.
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Urban-Sidhe Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Student Artist
FYI only 500k parents a year consider adoption. Less than a quarter of that actually go though and attempt to adopt.

Still if all 500k parents filled out the paper work to adopt a child that means 300k babies don't get homes.

I get tired of pro life because they are so assed backwards. They don't want abortions but they don't believe in contraception. Really horrible people.
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Earthtalon Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Alot of them believe in contraception. And pro choicers can be just as bad, if not worse.
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TheEmptyChest Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
I wasn't sure on the exact numbers, but yes, even if everyone who considers adoption actually adopted, there'd be tons of kids left over.

I do too. Arguing with them can be annoying as hell. They just can't stand it that not everyone holds to their morals.
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